Lisbon is getting a lot of buzz lately as a place to live, particularly as more people look for places to live and work remotely from.
I moved to Lisbon in 2016, before the current huge wave of interest in the Portuguese capital. Living here has been a fantastic change in terms of lifestyle, though I also noticed that some of the information about Lisbon can be hyped up or neglected to tell both sides.
Because a lot has also changed in Lisbon in the past couple of years, I thought I’d share my honest perspective here.
1. The secret is definitely out
Lisbon used to be quite an overlooked capital in Europe, but that is no longer the case. Especially since the pandemic hurdled remote working into the mainstream, there has been enormous interest from foreigners wanting to move to Lisbon.
The most-talked-about trend in Lisbon is the many Americans who have flocked to it recently. While Brazilians, French, and other nationalities account for a greater share of newcomers overall, Americans seem to be in the spotlight in the media because of their relatively strong purchasing power.
This has unfortunately led to property prices rising disproportionately and rents rising as well. To put it bluntly, the Californians who are escaping places like SF that have been too gentrified are now gentrifying Lisbon. It’s become a major crisis for locals, but even many foreigners are being priced out of Lisbon.
There is therefore a lot of talk lately about how Lisbon is maxed out. The huge interest in the city has triggered a housing crisis and the influx of digital nomads has become a matter of national public debate and even protests. In early 2023 the government announced a set of 10 new measures to cool the housing market, but it’s unclear if or when they’ll be implemented.
Lisbon may still be a great opportunity, depending on your perspective, though it’s no longer the bargain or hidden gem it once was. If you’re coming from downtown New York, Lisbon will surely seem ‘cheap’, but it’s now murderously expensive in a local sense and even pretty expensive at a European level.
If you decide to move to Lisbon, be sure to educate yourself about the local housing market. Some foreigners are known for basically just paying the quoted price (and often in cash) without negotiating at all or being aware of local property prices. Don’t overpay so as to not artificially inflate the market, which is making it very hard for Portuguese to live in their own city.
2. It can be hard to find a place
The high demand can make it challenging to find a place to live — at least, of the size and in the area that you want. This was already a challenge when I moved here in 2016 and this is now doubly true.
As you explore Lisbon you’ll soon see that there are countless buildings needing to be renovated and the availability of high-quality housing is limited.
Something to know is that the city has relatively many houses for sale, but fewer places to rent (at least for the medium or long term).
The issue is that the Portuguese tend to buy houses and not rent them, so the availability of rentals is already fairly low.
If you’re renting, be sure to follow sites like SAPO, IMO Virtual or Bquarto. Check out the Portuguese classifieds site OLX as well.
3. Local jobs don’t pay so well
If you work online while living in Lisbon (like I do), then you’ll be unaffected by the local salary levels. But if you’re looking for a job in Lisbon, just know that you’d be lucky to earn over 1000 EUR a month for a skilled job.
Portuguese salaries are low by Western European standards, with around 675 EUR a month now being the minimum wage (when calculated on a 12-month basis — Portugal has a ’14-month salary’ system so you have to convert it).
Many younger international residents end up working for call centers such as Teleperformance, which employ thousands of foreign language workers. There seems to be a decent demand for English-as-second-language teachers as well.
You’ll be in an ideal position if you have an income independent of Portugal. There is a growing startup, remote worker, and digital nomad scene in Lisbon, with tons of co-working spaces and startup incubators around.

4. Apart from housing, cost of living is still low
Local salaries may be low and rents and property prices may have skyrocketed, but it’s true that other aspects of life in Lisbon remain affordable. This is especially the case if you’re used to northern European prices. Numbeo has a great cost of living overview.
Central Lisbon has gotten much pricier due to the tourism boom, but as a local resident you can still easily get around this, for example by avoiding tourist restaurants and eating in your local neighborhood. While they’ve gotten more expensive, things such as food and drinks and transportation are relatively cheap from a foreign perspective, though housing prices are ever-increasing and you’ll have to properly factor this into your budget.
When not looking strictly at housing, the cost of living in Lisbon does remain attractive when considering costs such as restaurant meals, transportation, etc.
5. There is significant bureaucracy
Not everything in Portugal exactly operates with perfect efficiency, to say the least. Many expats are not at all prepared for the sheer headache that is Portuguese bureaucracy.
Public servants can be highly unmotivated, can give you highly conflicting information, and may decide to help or not help you entirely based on their mood that day. The government service desks bizarrely all close in the early afternoon. Processes are often needlessly complicated or uncoordinated; opening a bank account required me to sign a dozen different agreements.
It’s telling that when I went to consult with an expat tax consultant when I first came to Portugal, they advised me to stay out of the Portuguese system as much as possible. “Don’t give yourself a headache,” they said.
I’ve had some frustrating situations while setting up here. I once got caught in a loop where I needed Document A to get Document B, but to get Document A you already needed B. My Portuguese residency papers say I’m of British nationality even though I’m Dutch because, as the public servant told me, the drop-down menu in the registration program didn’t show Dutch as an option. I was told not to worry about it. (I definitely should have worried about it!)
Seemingly simple issues can turn into crazy labyrinths. I recently had to get some vaccination shots before traveling to a tropical country and this sent me into mind-bending loops between various health entities with no clear way to make an appointment. Under the NHS in the UK (grumbled about as it is), this would have still been very easy to schedule.
In my home country, The Netherlands, I can call the tax authority hotline and have a question answered within 10 minutes; in Portugal, you’ll probably end up on an epic quest taking weeks.
I’m not complaining of course. I chose to live here and this is simply how things work. I’m just trying to sketch an accurate portrait of Portugal, so that you may know what to expect. Even though this country does try to portray itself as a startup hub and innovator, it’s still extremely old-school when it comes to many government functions, customer support, etc.
That said, the basic things you need to do are usually not too complicated. Your first step after moving is to get a tax identification number called a NIF. You need this to do anything like renting a place or opening a bank account. Unless you’re particularly unlucky, getting a NIF takes just 10 minutes at the Financas office.

The Portuguese healthcare system seems to be of good overall quality, albeit known for being slow and understaffed. Getting some private medical insurance (such as from Medis) can get you faster treatment. The insurance packages are very inexpensive compared to other parts of Europe, and (it must be said) eye-poppingly cheap compared to the US.
Expect to sometimes need some patience to navigate the Portuguese systems. You’ll also sometimes get several conflicting answers from different people (or even the authorities) on how things are supposed to work. It’s best to just shrug this off, not think about it too much, and get things done in any way that seems to work.
6. It’s worth learning some Portuguese
The Portuguese are excellent English speakers, so you’ll rarely have any trouble communicating, especially with the younger generations who learned English from an early age. Movies and TV shows are subtitled instead of dubbed.
It’s nevertheless worth learning some basic Portuguese as it will still help you out a ton! It’s not known as an easy language to learn, but knowing at least some basics will aid in your everyday life. I think it’s also an important part of living somewhere and trying to integrate, regardless of how long you intend to stay.
Starting to learn Portuguese can feel a bit overwhelming, as it has the reputation of being a difficult language to learn (and it’s very different from Spanish). This blog has some great advice for how to self-teach, take classes, or immerse yourself in the language.
7. Portuguese are reserved but friendly
It is true that the Portuguese are friendly, relaxed, and tolerant people. The claims made by those promoting Portugal abroad I found to be true. I love the Portuguese and their down-to-earth attitude.
What’s not often said is that Portuguese can also be a bit quiet or stoic. The temperament may, at times, seem closer to Norwegians and Fins than Spaniards or Italians — or at least, that’s my impression.
That could be a generalization, but some foreigners do talk about the Portuguese being a bit more reserved and that local connections take a bit longer than expected to develop. Then again, I’ve heard the same said from foreigners about living in my home country of the Netherlands, so maybe it’s just something that all immigrants have to deal with.
A huge number of Portuguese have worked abroad, especially in the UK and Luxembourg. It’s often these international Portuguese you’ll be first to meet, as they like to mix with other nationalities in the same way they did when living abroad themselves.

8. Winter is a bit weird
Winters have a different feel to them in Portugal than they do in the north of Europe.
That’s in part because many apartments don’t bother having central heating as this would just sit unused for most of the year (this is especially true for the charming older houses that many foreigners like to live in).
That does mean that December and January get cold AF at times. Bizarrely, it’s often colder inside than it is outside.
Winters are less cozy than in northern Europe and more just… well, cold? During the winter months, you may just have to keep under the blankets or stay near an electric heater.
This is, of course, a small price to pay for the ten months of good weather you get during the rest of the year.

9. Groups and meetups help you settle in
There are a ton of Lisbon-specific Facebook groups where you can get answers to many questions or find other internationals.
A very active group is the Lisbon Digital Nomads, which organizes weekly meetups in Lisbon as well as comedy nights and other fun activities.
Couchsurfing has a weekly meetup on Wednesdays in Cais do Sodre that is attended by internationals, travelers, and some locals. The bar where it’s held isn’t Lisbon’s best, but it’s a nice event for meeting people when you’ve just arrived.
Older expats and career professionals often connect via platforms like Internations. Other events get regularly posted on Meetup.com.
Basically, it doesn’t have to take long to build up a social circle in Lisbon.
10. You do get a great quality of life
I’m not gonna lie: the quality of life in Lisbon is pretty great.
The climate is possibly the best in Europe, with about 9 or 10 months of good weather, and without the summer ever getting too hot.
I’m getting a lot of mileage out of my picnic gear, and with plenty of beaches within 30 to 60 minutes of Lisbon, you can have a sun-and-surf lifestyle while still living in a city. There is always something to do, with tons of festivals and cultural events.
Lisbon is big enough to have all the big city things, but still small enough to have a great sense of community. I lived in London before which I came to really dislike mostly due to its sheer size, but Lisbon is a lot friendlier in size.
That said, the ‘quality of life’ is relative to your income level and for many locals the city center is no longer affordable. This I believe has a negative quality-of-life effect for everyone; turning Lisbon into a city only for foreigners is not desirable even for the foreigners. The local aspects that attracted people like me in the first place may disappear if the situation is not rebalanced.
When researching Lisbon as a potential place to live, I recommend looking for up-to-date recent information, current impressions from online groups, and so on, as the picture has changed quite a bit from just a few years ago.
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Hello, my wife and I are in our early 70’s and are completely disillusioned with US. We are not constrained monetarily.
We have been to Portugal twice and are returning in 2021 to stay for five weeks. We would like to meet expats in Lisbon for drinks and talk.
Thank you for all replies.
John Brewton
I loved this article! I lived in Coimbra for 5 months as an exchange student. After some years, I’m still feeling a bit Portuguese inside.
I would love to move to Lisbon, and I’m tempted to start looking for open positions there!
I only disagree on “Portuguese are very good English speakers”. NO WAY. Of course Lisbon is a more international city, but in Coimbra no one knew even a single English word regardless of the age.
At least I learnt Portuguese! I was able to speak it very good, and I am still able to understand it now. (I’m Italian so it wasn’t that hard for me as the two languages are more similar than I thought).
Here in Lisbon it was easy with English, but I’ve never lived in Coimbra 🙂 Interesting you had a different experience and hope you can find a job in Lisbon!
I lived in Cascais from 1963 to 1966. You folks would not believe just what a Paradise Portugal was back then. Lived in Quinta Da Marinha, played golf at Estoril GC, tennis at Estoril TC, beach, during the day, restaurants at Cascais or Estoril, Nightclubs every night. It was a beautiful and incredible place back then,,Did I mention really cheep?
Just got to Lisbon December 30th. Any recommendations on my being able to meet up with someone to help me navigate and find an apartment in a good area?
Hi Marek, thanks for useful infos.
I have a question – is 1000 euros gross per month enought to have a good life in Lisbon?
I think that could be around 750 net?
I will not pay for accomodation. I like to go out for a beer, travel around and still would like to save something.
Thanks a lot for advice.
Sam
If a place to live is already taken care of for you then yes, I think 1000 gross is enough to live well in Lisbon.
But if you still need to pay rent from that, it’s going to be tough.
Hi Marek,
Thank you for your post, it is very useful.
I am moving to Lisbon beginning of next year. I will be a student, but not too busy over the week. I was wandering is it hard to find a job in a coffee bar as a student with Student visa and Residence permit? I am 26. I was thinking that this would give me a decent salary plus some tips. Do you know what are average salaries for waiters?
Also, if you have any advice what I could do other than in a bar, I am happy to hear.
Cheers
Hey Maya. As long as you have a residency permit nothing will stop you (practically speaking) from getting a job. I don’t know a lot about salaries, but ask around and check if it’s net or bruto, and keep in mind in Portugal they pay 14 months per year (xmas and summer bonus months) so your salary might be a bit higher than it seems at first.
I booked my holiday for 4 months in Lisbon. Then found out there is a 90 day limit to my stay. What can I do to stay longer ?
A 4-month long-stay Portuguese visa is only valid under certain circumstances (not just for tourism/holiday). It depends on where you’re from but you’re probably just stuck with the 90-day Schengen visa, unless you want to actually apply for permanent residency in Portugal.
Hey Marek, everyone,
I am from Lisbon, born and bred… what can I say, it’s just an amazing feeling to have had the opportunity to be raised in Lisbon. Back in the days (early 90’s), I remember we could play outside for most of the time, the vintage tram (which became a touristic phenomena!) was simply empty, except for the people that would live in the most difficult places to reach (where buses would not go). now, about 25 years have passed and it still remains a pearl. My gf and I just moved to London (I got relocated with work and thought it would e a great opportunity), and we hate it every day. However it’s overpopulated, it is just so “empty” at core. People are careless and even rude in the tube, the pollution, poor food ingredients… We are looking forward to come back to Lisbon asap! Now, I know Lisbon rents went mad, and believe me that I always answer back and blame the government, when speaking with friends (“we have to do something!”), so we expect that new measures might come for those wanting to move over (consider living anywhere with metro station and your commute wont take longer than 40/45 mins). Lastly, so far I lived in Tours (France), Dublin( Ireland), Malmo (Sweden), and now London… and none beat Lisbon! It’s just impossible Im afraid… 🙂
All the best 🙂
While I don’t come from Lisbon, I have developed very similar feelings to yours about this city. 🙂 I also hope, of course, that the government takes steps to rebalance the housing market. Certain measures have been taken this year: the freezing of new Airbnbs/ALs, incremental tax increases every year for houses that are not in use, and others. Maybe it will start having some effect, although these things usually move slowly, and the situation is complex. I fell in love with Lisbon and hope it will forever remain a pearl.
Thanks to the expats the young portuguese can no longer live in their city. 6th worst city in the world in termos of ratio rent/income (https://www.idealista.pt/news/imobiliario/habitacao/2019/09/20/40925-lisboa-a-cidade-com-maior-esforco-salarial-para-pagar-rendas-na-europa-6a-no-mundo). Time for a new revolution I start to hear
I agree, but first we need to convince the new society that they should stand up, for their (their children) rights and vote, speak up… We have an amazing country, beautiful landscape, soil. people, food! And yet we keep hoping for a change, seating at the restaurant, or at the football stadium and now on social media… I am in my early 30s and I wish we could all just say, “basta!” and get things changed for real. But other than that, our country beats most of the world if we consider everything that Marek posted here. Abraco!
I know this post isn’t that recent, but I love it and I love your generosity and, frankly, I want to move there and have you as a bestie. Kidding. I just wanted to add here that, having spent a little time there over the summer for the last couple of years, the literary scene there is phenomenal (I’m a writer, and I was teaching with an American program there), and it was one of the things that really captured my heart.
I am very impressed with your info on Lisbon I am Portuguese but never lived in Portugal because I was born in Mozambique I have travelled extensively and visited Lisbon many times and what you say is very true but not in anyway negative just super useful thank you for your input Enjoy Portugal
Thanks for your kind words Vicky!
Hi, Marek, thanks for the good information. I have at least one other question now. How are the income tax rates in Portugal?
Christopher
Sorry Chris I didn’t catch your question earlier. Income tax seems relatively high to me (you can find the exact details online). You may be able to lower it by participating in the non-habitual residency program – it’s worth checking if you can apply for it.
Thanks for this article Marek, it’s really good. We were just in Lisbon recently and loved it. We’re even considering moving there and I would remote work. I’ve briefly lived in London before and even though there was a level of enjoyment it’s really stressful, over populated and polluted – after a few days of being there black stuff comes out of your nose every time you blow it – now that is really polluted :(… is there any new builds in Lisbon as we’re struggling (we would want to buy though)… thanks
Yeah I remember blowing out soot in London too! There are new builds outside of the old center – I read something about projects around praca de espanha for example. I’m by no means an expert though, best to inquire with real estate people here.
Hi, Marek. Thank you for taking the time to write this blog and for the help you are giving those of us interested in relocating to Portugal.
My wife and I are living in Glastonbury in the UK. I am an artist with an art gallery here. My wife is a British citizen and I am American living here on a 3 year spousal visa. We were very excited about relocating to the UK permanently, but now with the Brexit fiasco seemingly destroying the UK economy we are looking for another place to retire. We are both retirees and both receive modest pensions. We have a reasonable amount of savings and can afford to relocate again and start a new life somewhere else. As senior citizens one of our main concerns is healthcare. What is the healthcare situation in Portugal? What is the situation as concerns seniors benefits? We are not sure if we want to settle in Lisbon, but when we get some answers to some our concerns we will plan a trip to visit for a while to check out the country first hand. Some more questions we have that you may be able to help us with are: What is required from the Portuguese government to permanently relocate there from another EU country? How about requirements for the spouse of a EU citizen to visit Portugal, would my spousal visa work as a way to enter Portugal? Is the fact that my wife is still a citizen of a EU country allow her to travel freely in and out of Portugal? Also, since I am an artist what is the situation with the Arts in the country? My gallery now depends a lot on visiting tourists. Is the tourist population pretty good in Lisbon? How about in some other areas of Portugal? Are there some areas in Portugal that contain strong artist communities? Anything else you may think of that you feel we should know in our situation would be much appreciated. Marek, I know you probably will not know the answers to all my questions and I wouldn’t expect you to, but anything you can offer will be very appreciated. I know there is a lot of my own investigation to do and I am working on this. Again, thank you so much for your blog!
Christopher
Hi Christopher. Healthcare here is residency based, similar to the NHS in the UK. From what I hear state healthcare isn’t the best (e.g. shortage of doctors, long waiting times) though the care itself is good quality. You can get additional private healthcare for cheap (e.g. 60 eur a month). I’ve had good service through this, personally speaking. There are no requirements to relocate to Portugal from another EU country… it’s the EU. But given Brexit, things might work differently in the future. When you’re an EU citizen, as you still are, you get a 5-year residency permit that can be renewed (this is independent of EU, so it’s Brexit proof for at least those years). If Brexit interferes in the future, you could maybe become a Portuguese citizen – but I’m not up to speed on the requirements for this. There are definitely many tourist in Lisbon – in fact, there is talk about overtourism here, with some areas getting too many visitors in summer. But from your business point of view, there won’t be a problem getting customers. Other major tourist areas are Algarve and Porto. If you’re more into a hippie-like artist life in the countryside, I hear there’s a significant community of UK artists and farmers in Beira Beixa (near Castelo Branco). Hope this helps!
Everything you mention about Lisbon sounds great. Currently I am living in Malta, although there is many great things about Malta one of the things that is driving me crazy is the great amount of litter all over the streets. There isn’t enough bins and often they are overflowing. What is the situation in Lisbon with this regard? I’m asking because considering possibly moving to Lisbon.
Hey Laura. It’s generally fine. Might not be 100% perfect everywhere, but they’ve been installing new bins with underground containers in many neighborhoods.
We have just started looking to move overseas… This is a great article and very helpful on questions to ask and what to look for in different cities. Thank you!
Hello, this blog is brilliant and so useful, Im english and relocating from London. working online remotely for a uk company.
Do i still need a tax number if i pay tax here? Confused.
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Hey Stacey. If you live in Portugal it probably makes sense to also become tax resident there. You’ll then declare your income from the UK company as foreign income. Might want to speak to a tax advisor in Lisbon though.
Maybe you need an update on the cost of living since it sky rocketed over the past 3 to 4 years. Median rents in Lisbon are now higher than in Berlim, and salaries are much lower. Average gross salary in Lisbon is 1000€ and the average rent is 11.6€ per square metre so really do your maths before coming here 🙂 Also construction is rather poor over here, specially in the city centre, so you will probably end up with a crappy apartment for a crazy rent.
Latest report on rents in Portugal: https://www.idealista.pt/news/imobiliario/habitacao/2019/03/27/39194-rendas-aumentam-e-novos-contratos-abrandam
It’s actually funny that everyone wants to come to Lisbon. I was born and live in Lisbon and I am waiting for my retirement (still decades to go :)) to go elsewhere. This city is pretty stressful, polluted and there are almost no parks. Portugal is a flower and if you are looking for quality of life there are better places to live over here.
Hah I do hear criticism of Lisbon sometimes from locals. Try living in London for a while and Lisbon will seem like paradise 😉 Most people I know moving to Lisbon are young(-ish) and working, so having a working expat community in the city makes things a lot more interesting, and there’s a lot of fun stuff to do in the city. For quiet retirement, there are maybe better options around in Portugal.
Lisbon is getting way too popular. I think expats should be considering other cities in Portugal where the weather is also great (or even better 🙂 I leave some suggestions of beautiful places/cities: Porto, Coimbra, Aveira, Braga, Guimaraes, Obidos, Ericeira (all north of Lisbon), Sintra, Cascais, Estoril, Alcochete, Costa da Caparica (around Lisbon), Comporta, Troia, Sesimbra, Lagos, Tavira, Alvor, Vilamoura, Faro (all south of Lisbon). These places are much cheaper than Lisbon, it is way easier to find a nice flat and arguably the quality of life is higher than in Lisbon, which can be a tough stressful city especially for older people.
Hi Marek! I’m thinking of moving to Lisbon from San Francisco with my dog! Which neighborhoods should I be looking at for convenience? I don’t want to get a car and would prefer to walk everywhere. Thanks in advance!
Many of the neighborhoods are very walkable. I’d recommend checking out different areas to see which vibe you like (and what you can afford). I like Lapa, Sao Bento, Alcantara, Ajuda, Santos, Graca, etc. Some people prefer the more modern and flatter parts like Saldanha, Arroios, etc.
Thank you! Do you have any additional information on having a dog in Lisbon?
No clue, sorry!
Hello!
I know this is pretty late but I need your help! I am traveling to
Lisbon on November 16 and staying for a week. I am starting the packing process. Is it cold there? What should I pack?
Um, couldn’t you get this information easily? 🙂 It’s around 18 degrees C / 62 degrees F now so pack some autumn clothes. Cold is relative to what you’re used to!
Hi,
Do you need a car living in Lisbon? I have a family of 4 and I like to surf as well.
Thank You!
It depends. As a family of 4 and if you don’t live in the very center, a car is definitely useful. Portugal in general is very car-based. Central lisbon does have a good metro though, and many electric car, motorbike, bicycle, and scooter sharing systems have shown up this year. The boundaries for these platforms/apps are usually Alges in the west and Parque de Nacoes in the east.
Hi,
First of all thanks for the article its seems very useful.
Than I am wondering to know if you have ever been/ or know something from reality about Malta. From where we wish to move away as we are living here for 5 years which was fair enough but it is time to move and wondering if you could help me to compare with it.
Not yet been to Malta, sorry!
Thanks for your article, Marek! I’m moving to Lisbon from London as well and really interested to hear your opinion. Glad to have some tips from an insider 🙂 See you on the beach!
The quality of life here is so much better than London (I think so anyway). Welcome to Lisbon soon and hope you’ll love it too! 🙂
Thanks a lot. Lovely tips. But do you mind to share if you know where would i search for a good International School for my 5 years old to start a new life in Lisbon?
Sorry, no idea.
Hi Marek,
I’ve been considering moving to Lisbon permanently. I have a bachelor’s degree in English and Literature and have been venturing with the idea of teaching English as a Foreing Language there. Do you know if language schools can help you be granted a work visa? Any other tips/ contacts you can hook me up with?
Sorry, don’t really know that much about the language schools 🙁
Hi,
you said that one can reach any place in Lisbon within 30 minutes, while you hate London (for being the counterpart).
I have the possibility now to choose whether move to London or to Lisbon, to work for the same company [payment in UK will be higher, but the difference isn’t that big after all, rent, living etc.]
What would you suggest?!
Hi Andrew. Well, it’s really more than just the size. I think London can be a good place to make money (at least in theory), but Lisbon offers a vastly superior quality of life. London can be quite exciting if you’re young and into the music scene, it’s very diverse, and there’s always something going on – but it’s also congested, polluted, stressful, expensive, lacking green spaces, has really drab weather most of the year, and it’s so big that it makes a sense of community very hard to find.
One challenge with Lisbon can be the language – at least if you choose to stay long-term and wish to have more non-expat friends (if you’re not bothered then you can still do everything in English). You’ll get great weather, beaches & forests nearby, less stress, affordable food, manageable distances, a way more egalitarian and chilled out society, etc.
I’d choose Lisbon. 😉
Lisbon sounds awesome and definitely high on my list. Thanks for the info.
Sorry to hear you didn’t enjoy London although I do have to take issue with you saying it lacks green space…green spaces cover half the city! https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/47-per-cent-of-london-is-green-space-is-it-time-for-our-capital-to-become-a-national-park-9756470.html
I may be biased because I’m a Londoner but living abroad (Singapore) the thing I miss most about London (other than pubs) are all the parks. No other big city in the world gets close to that amount of green space.
Anyway I hope next time you are in London you have a better experience.
Haha, fair enough. My impressions may have had to do specifically with central London. I actually lived not far from Richmond Park which was really nice!
Great article, helped me a lot to have an idea about life in Lisbon.
Thank you very much for share it to the community.
I am going on vacation, but also looking for information to move out of USA in the future.
Again, thank you very much.
Hi Marek, great article. Just a note about minimum wage in Portugal. Your number (500€) is way off reality. In Portugal the minimum wage as of July 2018 is 677€ per month (580€ x 14) / 12. Anyway I live in Lisbon and I really don’t know anyone who earns that, and I don’t know how someone could make a living in Lisbon with a wage like that. The average salary in Lisbon Metropolitan Area is 1388€ per month (GEP stats numbers).
Good info, thanks for sharing. I heard the minimum wage was increased and also didn’t know about the 14 payments vs 12. And as you say, maybe it’s not a relevant statistic for Lisbon in particular. 🙂
Thank you for so much info. After reading your site, i am now thinking Portomight be easier to rent an apt. Is that true? And do you have any knowledge of the availability, rental estimates, andany web sites frrenting in Porto? Thank you, Linda
Yes I believe the market in Porto might be a lot easier. Don’t know those particulars though – I recommend checking the sites mentioned in the article!
Hi Marek,
This is a really interesting post. My boyfriend and I are planning on moving to Lisbon (from London) in October. Reading the part on how hard it is to find a place to rent is a little scary though – especially since we have two cats with us! Can you tell me honestly, do you think this is going to make it nigh impossible for us??
Thanks in advance.
Have no idea how pets affect things to be honest! It’s not impossible to find places so don’t let this stop you. But it is common to hear from internationals arriving here that they had to search a lot, were discouraged for a while, or had to compromise in some way (cost/location/etc).
Hi Flo, we are in a similar situation with two cats (and 2 kids!). How are you getting on finding a place and how are the cats? My wife is really worried about her beloved felines! Thanks, Guy
Hi There!
Thanks for the useful article! I am a dual-citizen, Canadian/Portuguese, and recently moved to Lisbon. I am facing some major difficulties obtaining my NIF as I am not yet renting, but rather staying with family friends. Do you have any further advice re: NIF? Everything is on hold for this number for me and now I am being told I need to live in the country for 6 months to obtain it (even though I have citizenship). All help and advice welcomed 🙂
Thanks,
Robyn
Hi Robyn. That’s weird. When I went to get my NIF they complained I was *already* renting, because technically you can’t do so without a NIF. So I had to go back another day and pretend my street address was still my old one in the UK to get the NIF and send that to my landlord. Seems like a classic example of the rules applying differently depending on who you talk to. Wish I had better advice though!
Hmm….. which office did you go to for your NIF? And were you already living in Lisbon for 6 months or have a signed contract for a job? Trying to gather some information to make an argument in my case (haha). Thanks for you help!
I think that was Serviço de Finanças Lisboa 2. I had only just arrived in Lisbon and no job contract (my only work is this blog). I actually went to another Financas to try again, and they made no fuss. I’ve heard a lot of varying stories – it seems in Portugal it’s sometimes more about the individual you speak with than strict adherence to universal rules.
Thanks Marek! I think I may have solved the mystery today and spoke to the “right person at the right time”! Appreciate your help 🙂
Hi Marek – what a lovely blog you have, I have just stumbled upon it. I am planning to move myself, also from London – may I ask you which moving company you had used (if any). I do not have much stuff to take with, but it’s more than a few sutcases, however not enough for an (expensive) container with one of the big movers. Thanks a lot!
Hey Alex. Thanks! 🙂 I used http://www.algarveremovals.com. They can stop by in Lisbon. My PC monitor sadly got broken in the move, but I’d still say they did a good job at a good price.
Thanks a lot!
Thank you for sharing this useful information. I appreciate that. What I wonder. What about neighborhoods just outside Lisbon, are houses and apartments also that difficult and expensive? I want to move to Lisbon with my family and do not need a house in a trendy and vibrant neighborhood. Thanks in advance!
Hi Hendrik, we are also looking to move with our family. Have you made any progress? We like Carcavelos area but the commute is 1 hour plus on the train! Thanks
This is such a great article, thank you for posting! I am interested in moving from the US to Lisbon, although it is not super important for me to be right in the city center. Do you find that it is easier to find a place to live on the outskirts of town? Is public transport available to make a commute to the city doable on a daily basis? Thanks!
Hey Kirsten. It does get a bit easier to find something on the outskirts. All areas near the metro lines are in demand though. Public transport in general is very good and distances aren’t so huge in Lisbon so commuting doesn’t have to be so bad. (Most complaints are from car owners who find themselves stuck in traffic on the bridge and elsewhere. But the metros and trains are fine!)
Thanks so much for sharing! What are the upfront costs for renting a place? I.e. what do landlords normally ask for? Currently living in Kigali, Rwanda and here they ask for at least 3 months rent upfront plus one month deposit. Sometimes they ask for 6 months upfront plus 1 month so it can be really expensive to begin with if your rent is say $1000 per month! I plan to move to Lisbon before summer but need to budget what I will need to start of with and how long I will have before I have to start making money (self employed).
One place asked me for 6 months up front. The place I currently rent asked for 2 months. It depends and it might be negotiable. The biggest challenge is finding a room or apartment to rent in the first place, as this can be incredibly challenging at the moment…
I’ve always dreamed of moving to Lisbon, Portugal and I’m saving about $500 a month so that when I arrive there I can be set before finding a job. I don’t mind the low pay I’m there to explore and just be happy. My plan would be to rent a room for about 7-8 months. I’ve looked on easy quarto and bquarto and found some reasonable rooms for rent but are those actually reliable and is it hard to get in contact with them?
Also I’m learning the Portuguese language now to help me find a job. Being bilingual will that help me find a job?
Yes certainly could be a useful asset
Hey Anai. I haven’t heard anything about bquarto specifically. But generally, these sites can give you the impression there’s more available than there actually is! Rooms get snatched up *very* quickly right now. I know many people in Lisbon who are struggling to find a place (even people who have been here a long time and have many local connections). Be prepared to hustle, make lots of calls, etc.
Thanks for this article. Really helpful and insightful.
Are there any recruitment agencies that you recommend getting in contact with over there for jobs?
Not aware of any, sorry! Maybe a good question to pose in a Lisbon expat Facebook group 🙂
Great blog, Marek!
I visited Lisbon a few weeks back and totally fell in love with the city. I’ve wanted to move abroad for a couple of years, initially wanting to move to Amsterdam (from the UK) but ending up deciding against it due to the high cost of living. The only trouble is, I’ve heard it can be quite hard to find work (in Lisbon), especially for expats.
Since you posted this blog – I was wondering if you’ve discovered any new tips in finding work? My background is marketing/social media etc. but I’m totally open to temporary/hospitality work whilst I find my feet. Do you know anything in particular within these areas?
Sorry, I know it’s very specific! 🙂
Thanks
Hey Rebecca. If you’re in marketing/social media then perhaps you could find remote work with a UK company. There’s a lot of expats at coworking offices here doing freelance work online. I’m not sure as to the best approach to find work locally, but there are many Meetups and Startup hubs (like Beta-i) where you might find leads within your specialty. The economy is picking up a bit so finding a temp job might be a bit easier than it was a year or two ago. Unfortunately, I don’t know what the best job boards are! Olx.pt might be worth a try (it’s like Gumtree in the UK).
This came just right as well. The city makes it easy to think of moving there! Although the costs of living are higher than in Porto, it’s still cheap compared to other cities in Europe.
Porto is definitely cheaper and I love it there. I personally like living in Lisbon though as it lets you enjoy more cultural events, festivals, etc. Since it’s the capital it has a few more things going on. 🙂 Glad you loved Portugal as well!
Hi There. Really helpful article! I am moving to Lisbon for work next month and need to find an apartment as soon as I get there, any recommendations on agents or people to speak to that can help finding somewhere quickly?
All tips greatly appreciated!
Thanks.
I think a good way is to go to sites like SAPO (linked above) and see who’s posting the listings. Usually there’s a logo of an agency… googling and contacting them directly might help.
Wonderful article full of great tips – thank you! I was Lisbon earlier this year and feel head over heels in love with it. And I know what you mean, I was there in January and the outside was a perfect temperature but my accommodation was quite chilly and the plug in heater did little to aid in warmth. And it moved into my top 5 places I’d like to move to so the tips you gave are something I am certainly going to look into more.